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Return to the Forum List  Youtube the 125 | Just an Idea. I very much believe in the sharing of ideas. As folks maybe aware, this forum concept was pushed by a couple of people including Barney and myself some years ago, and thanks to Erik and Keith it became a reality. I am no longer the the national publicity officer, although my name still is on the website as a conduit for the NEC.
I have a new idea. How about exploiting youtube to meet a real need that we have in our association. That is show people how to properly rig and sail a 125. Youtube is free and it is open to the public (fits in with my beliefs, what about everyone else?).
The proposal is that we set up an 125 account, and when some one has an idea, then film it, and publish it on you tube. It would be moderated through the NEC as we can have a repeat of the past. The NEC would place a notice in the discussion forum that a new video was on youtube and place the link. I would get (even still) about 10 request a month for a rigging guide. I would really love something that I could show people.
Please submit your comments on this idea. Further, lets put together a policy on how we should implement
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| | Re: Youtube the 125 | just as a demo, click on the link below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDToL593cmU
Must put in a disclaimer, not my video just one example whats out there. Also, placing and download video is more suited to those with broadband access. But since the technology is out there, why not?
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| | Re: Youtube the 125 | Youtube could be a good idea. Not sure how you would show settings and other technical data.
Quality of video/audio would need to be clear to make it usable.
There seems to be a lot of information out there regarding rigging and settings.
Whilst acknowledging that a lot of people protect their settings, it could be a good thing for the class if some of the top boats were willing to publish their settings and techniques.
This would create a closer fleet and provide beginners with really good base line info so that they can sail knowing that their boat is set up as well as can be.
As with most classes it is the sailors that win races.
Not just the boat!
What about a PDF document with good pics as per the rules and posted on our site?
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| | Re: Youtube the 125 | I think that quite a few people will share their rigging design and settings. Certainly whenever I have asked Jamie Thomson advice he has been more than willing to reveal all. Over the years the Vics have run a number of training clinics and all the top Vic sailors have given their ideas freely as well. The is definitely a competitive spirit amongst our sailors, but its on the water not in the boat yard.
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| | Re: Youtube the 125 | I like Greg's idea. A good pdf file with good photos would be best so that people can print it off for future reference. I would think that most videos posted on youtube are not clear enough to really see how people rig their boats. A couple of years ago I asked if anyone was interested in putting together a manual on how to competitively rig a 125 and how to sail one well. I learn as I go by asking people but this takes time. The only disadvantage is that there is such a large range of ideas and techniques used in different states.
Derek Miles
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| | Re: Youtube the 125 | Not sure about the clarity issue on youtube. I have look at a number of videos on mold preparation and fiberglassing, as well as R/C airplanes. Some are poor some are really clear. I think the factor in this is the amount of compression used for the video. I agree about the Manual, it is a must and I would hope that something could be done in the next 12 months (hint), but because there are so many things that are difficult to accurately explain in word on a sailing boat, I think a visual guide would be much better.
Just suggesting that a few of us give it a try. If it does not work it has not cost us anything, if it does work we may be many times rich er for it.
Really it just needs a few people to give it a go. Film a rigging set up (such as spinnaker setup, the most confusing thing to describe in writing to anyone), put a commentary to it and you have an uncle bob. I have not got my boat with me at the moment so I would make a start, but I am happy to set things up if some one can give it a try.
If it doesn't work we shut it down.
Any takers
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| | Re: Youtube the 125 | I don't know wether or not it would work as a medium for displaying boat setups, but it sure would be great to have a library of videos of 125s being sailed hard. I've got some videos from the East Fremantle nationals that I would love to put up.
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| | Re: Youtube the 125 | hey Damian, just wondering if you could send me those videos you were talk ing about ...its for a school assignment.
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| | Re: Youtube the 125 | Hi Haydn
I'll have to convert the videos from tape to mpg. I'm not sure when I'll get the chance to do it but I'll send them to you when their done. I'll try and get some done this weekend.
Jeff Purcell might be worth contacting as well, his mum videoed most of the last nationals held at South Lakes.
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| | Re: Youtube the 125 | I have set up a youtube account - 125assoc - just to see if this could work for the association. Its only a trial and can be shut down if necessary. At present, the plan would be for videos to bounce over to me and I will upload after viewing the content.
Once it is established that this will work, I will send a notice to the committees in each state with the password for the site and the publicity officers can monitor its progress.
Please keep the video format in a low res format. Youtube limits the storage of the video to 100MB (or 10min). YouTube accepts video files from most digital cameras, camcorders, and mobile phones in the .WMV, .AVI, .MOV, and .MPG file formats. I can for the most part convert and compress any other formats you have, so feel free to ask.
See how this project goes, and we will see if it is a benefit to the association.
Barry
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